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	<title>Comments on: Worst case of hemorrhoidal prolapse ever &amp; PPH</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. Roman Mihailov</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-498398</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Roman Mihailov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mich,

I see no reason for your comment. It seemed to be one made purely to &#039;troll&#039; Joe. Anal sex is not necessarily an unsafe practice as long as you take care not to damage your anal cavity in any way. It is only unsafe when having unclean and/or sex with someone who has a STD.


The facts that we know about the PPH patient is that he is a white male, age 45, and has a history with  history of chronic reducible hemorrhoidal disease. We do not know his height, weight, sexual orientation, or anything else. And, even if the man was gay, it is clear that this was not caused by having anal sex. This was caused by not having treated hemorrhoidal disease, straining, constipation, diarrhea,  or prolonged sitting, Without actually either getting our hands on his case file or asking him, we will never find out.


On a different note; this treatment seems like a suitable one depending on person and/or how bad the prolapse is. However, Tham, an above commentor, seems to have had the procedure and met with unsatisfactory results. I am not certain as to why, I&#039;m actually a Cardiologist and researcher, and have never dealt with patients who have  hemorroidal disease. Though, as I said, it seems to differentiate from person to person. However, I would say this article would be very helpful to scaring someone into taking better care of their body, that&#039;s for sure! And, of course, taking better care of their hemorroids. But it&#039;s also helpful if one were to be researching options to deal with their own or to find out if they themselves have prolapse.


4.5 stars from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mich,</p>
<p>I see no reason for your comment. It seemed to be one made purely to &#8216;troll&#8217; Joe. Anal sex is not necessarily an unsafe practice as long as you take care not to damage your anal cavity in any way. It is only unsafe when having unclean and/or sex with someone who has a STD.</p>
<p>The facts that we know about the PPH patient is that he is a white male, age 45, and has a history with  history of chronic reducible hemorrhoidal disease. We do not know his height, weight, sexual orientation, or anything else. And, even if the man was gay, it is clear that this was not caused by having anal sex. This was caused by not having treated hemorrhoidal disease, straining, constipation, diarrhea,  or prolonged sitting, Without actually either getting our hands on his case file or asking him, we will never find out.</p>
<p>On a different note; this treatment seems like a suitable one depending on person and/or how bad the prolapse is. However, Tham, an above commentor, seems to have had the procedure and met with unsatisfactory results. I am not certain as to why, I&#8217;m actually a Cardiologist and researcher, and have never dealt with patients who have  hemorroidal disease. Though, as I said, it seems to differentiate from person to person. However, I would say this article would be very helpful to scaring someone into taking better care of their body, that&#8217;s for sure! And, of course, taking better care of their hemorroids. But it&#8217;s also helpful if one were to be researching options to deal with their own or to find out if they themselves have prolapse.</p>
<p>4.5 stars from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-479163</link>
		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe&#039;s comment makes not sense.  He gives no support for his &quot;for sure&quot; assertion.  I&#039;m guessing he may be gay and wants to believe anal sex is safe -- well, Joe, it actually is very UNsafe.  (This is what Joe asserted w/o any backing:  &quot;I can say for sure that anal sex in no way contributed to this guy&#039;s condition in any way.  As fare as I&#039;m aware, most gay men can sit and pass stool comfortably.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8217;s comment makes not sense.  He gives no support for his &#8220;for sure&#8221; assertion.  I&#8217;m guessing he may be gay and wants to believe anal sex is safe &#8212; well, Joe, it actually is very UNsafe.  (This is what Joe asserted w/o any backing:  &#8220;I can say for sure that anal sex in no way contributed to this guy&#8217;s condition in any way.  As fare as I&#8217;m aware, most gay men can sit and pass stool comfortably.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Henri Charrière</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-476375</link>
		<dc:creator>Henri Charrière</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ that must have hurt. I struggle with soreness to the point of desperation and I am not gay, do not have piles, I look after my self, exercise, eat well and do not push jam jars up my ass. But I can sympathise with Mr Prolapse over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ that must have hurt. I struggle with soreness to the point of desperation and I am not gay, do not have piles, I look after my self, exercise, eat well and do not push jam jars up my ass. But I can sympathise with Mr Prolapse over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shively: I&#039;m not a doctor. But I can say for sure that anal sex in no way contributed to this guy&#039;s condition in any way. As far as I&#039;m aware, most gay men can sit and pass stool comfortably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shively: I&#8217;m not a doctor. But I can say for sure that anal sex in no way contributed to this guy&#8217;s condition in any way. As far as I&#8217;m aware, most gay men can sit and pass stool comfortably.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the reply.

i am not a doctor yet though. :) long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the reply.</p>
<p>i am not a doctor yet though. :) long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Entensity Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-74955</link>
		<dc:creator>Entensity Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where i&#039;m from, we call that Goatse. You see, the man CLAIMED he had hemorrhoidal prolapse, but he just needs to keep his fist out of his butt. This is also comonly called a rose bud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where i&#8217;m from, we call that Goatse. You see, the man CLAIMED he had hemorrhoidal prolapse, but he just needs to keep his fist out of his butt. This is also comonly called a rose bud.</p>
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		<title>By: Shively</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shively</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested in learning if this man was homosexual and if so, was this caused by homosexual behaviors over a peroid of say 6 months to a year&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested in learning if this man was homosexual and if so, was this caused by homosexual behaviors over a peroid of say 6 months to a year&gt;?</p>
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		<title>By: Goe tse, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goe tse, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rectum? damn near killed him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rectum? damn near killed him.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Hurvitz</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-72859</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Hurvitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to receive the video of PPH procedure.
Thanks
Best wishes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to receive the video of PPH procedure.<br />
Thanks<br />
Best wishes</p>
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		<title>By: Tham (Malaysia)</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-32678</link>
		<dc:creator>Tham (Malaysia)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a combined stapled plus diatherm  hemorrhoidectomy 
three years ago. The stapled procedure resulted in fecal 
urgency, at least 5 times a day, for about a month - just as 
reported in several studies in Medline. The was also stenosis,
and muscle spasms, due to the suture tugging on the anoderm,
I believe. This lasted some two months, during which I was
in considerable discomfort.

It also resulted in fecal impaction two times over a period of
about two months, which has also been reported in Medline
with this stapled method.

It seems one of them, which I think was the biggest one 
which had to be excised with diathermy, has recurred
just after two years as Stage 2.

The diathermy procedure was accompanied be heavy
postoperative blood loss and extreme pain. Pethidine
relieved the pain for barely an hour the first night.

I should have chosed the harmonic scalpel, as noted in 
Medline studies, which found no advantage of the PPH 
method over it. The PPH device wasn&#039;t cheap either, costing 
some M$1,500.

If I had selected the harmonic scalpel, I wouldn&#039;t have 
experienced blood loss from the one hemorrhoid which
could not be pulled up by the PPH and had to be cut off
by diathermy. Postoperative pain would also have be
very likely much reduced.

I&#039;ll make sure I choose the harmonic scalpel, or at least
the laser, if I need surgery again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a combined stapled plus diatherm  hemorrhoidectomy<br />
three years ago. The stapled procedure resulted in fecal<br />
urgency, at least 5 times a day, for about a month &#8211; just as<br />
reported in several studies in Medline. The was also stenosis,<br />
and muscle spasms, due to the suture tugging on the anoderm,<br />
I believe. This lasted some two months, during which I was<br />
in considerable discomfort.</p>
<p>It also resulted in fecal impaction two times over a period of<br />
about two months, which has also been reported in Medline<br />
with this stapled method.</p>
<p>It seems one of them, which I think was the biggest one<br />
which had to be excised with diathermy, has recurred<br />
just after two years as Stage 2.</p>
<p>The diathermy procedure was accompanied be heavy<br />
postoperative blood loss and extreme pain. Pethidine<br />
relieved the pain for barely an hour the first night.</p>
<p>I should have chosed the harmonic scalpel, as noted in<br />
Medline studies, which found no advantage of the PPH<br />
method over it. The PPH device wasn&#8217;t cheap either, costing<br />
some M$1,500.</p>
<p>If I had selected the harmonic scalpel, I wouldn&#8217;t have<br />
experienced blood loss from the one hemorrhoid which<br />
could not be pulled up by the PPH and had to be cut off<br />
by diathermy. Postoperative pain would also have be<br />
very likely much reduced.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make sure I choose the harmonic scalpel, or at least<br />
the laser, if I need surgery again.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrombosed Hemorrhoid at Unbounded Medicine</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-4785</link>
		<dc:creator>Thrombosed Hemorrhoid at Unbounded Medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JonMikel, M.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonMikel, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoping4more:

Non treated hemorrhoidal disease, straining, constipation, diarrhea, prolonged sitting and pregnancy, are the causes of hemorrhoidal prolapse.

It is very common in people to have hemorrhoidal disease, but frequently it is succesfull treated with conservative measures; when people choose not to treat the condition perpetuates and complicates.

Thank you for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoping4more:</p>
<p>Non treated hemorrhoidal disease, straining, constipation, diarrhea, prolonged sitting and pregnancy, are the causes of hemorrhoidal prolapse.</p>
<p>It is very common in people to have hemorrhoidal disease, but frequently it is succesfull treated with conservative measures; when people choose not to treat the condition perpetuates and complicates.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: hoping4more</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoping4more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...what could cause this severe case of hemorrhoidal prolapse?  I am glad you know how to treat it!  that looked excruciating, yikes!  ugh, i can&#039;t see how it got to this point (without treatment?) (but i&#039;m not educated about it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;what could cause this severe case of hemorrhoidal prolapse?  I am glad you know how to treat it!  that looked excruciating, yikes!  ugh, i can&#8217;t see how it got to this point (without treatment?) (but i&#8217;m not educated about it).</p>
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		<title>By: JonMikel, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.unboundedmedicine.com/2006/07/25/worst-case-of-hemorrhoidal-prolapse-ever/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>JonMikel, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with doctor Schwab. Hemorrhoidal disease and/or rectal diseases are hidden sciences for most primary care doctors and much more for lay people.

I&#039;ll try to explain this diseases from clinical cases.

Thanks for your comment. I hope to see you around here more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with doctor Schwab. Hemorrhoidal disease and/or rectal diseases are hidden sciences for most primary care doctors and much more for lay people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to explain this diseases from clinical cases.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I hope to see you around here more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Schwab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Schwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. I&#039;ve always thought hemorrhoidal disease is among the most misunderstood by primary care docs. Some is just a matter of terminology (perianal hematoma vs thrombosed hemorrhoid, for example). Managing 4th degree prolapse can be a real mess, and this stapling technique seems to be becoming a very useful step forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I&#8217;ve always thought hemorrhoidal disease is among the most misunderstood by primary care docs. Some is just a matter of terminology (perianal hematoma vs thrombosed hemorrhoid, for example). Managing 4th degree prolapse can be a real mess, and this stapling technique seems to be becoming a very useful step forward.</p>
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